Sunday, 30 March 2008

DMT

OK This could be dangerous territory but it is interesting.Well at least I think it is!!! After moving house, and with all that it entails,I found this clipping that I had saved BEFORE discovering Anthony Peake (thanks to Susan Marie!!!) and it now seems strangely relevant but ALAs IT SEEMS TO INVOLVE .... eeeeeek drug-taking!!!! It was an article about a substance called DMT which seemed to say that if taken, elicits a vision of Alternate Realities or Parallel Universes....and apparently this substance floods the brain upon death.... oh dear I am SO TEMPTED to try it and buy it!!!! Susan Marie and myself have spoken at length re contacting our departed loved oness and she sent me Anthony Peakes books.... any thoughts on this???Before our Mentor himself discovers it??!!!
Jesamyn .

21 comments:

Anthony Peake said...

Jesamyn: I am really sorry to tell you this but I am not only aware of DMT (the'spirit molecule' as it is known)but I also have been in email contact with Dr. Rick Strassman. Rick and I have swopped a few emails and I know that he is aware of this blog and ITLAD/CTF. You have stimulated me to re-open my dialogue with him and suggest that maybe he make a comment on your posting.

johar said...

I would be very interested to hear from Dr Strassman regarding the effects of DMT. It seems I am in a similar position to Jesamyn and Susan Marie regarding the desire to contact departed loves ones. If the Dr could enlighten us we can at least make informed decisions regarding it's use. Not meaning to sound like a druggie honest!

regards

JO

johar said...

So I decided to investigate a bit myself and lo and behold there's Dr Strassman on wikipedia which discusses his research on this subject!!

susan marie said...

I will look at the Wikipedia article- thank you for mentioning it, Johar. I am in what the grief experts call "pathological grieving", in which grief gets worse, not better, with the passage of time. I will grasp at at any straw.

susan marie said...

Just to clarify the above: I would not think of ingesting DMT or anything else, because there is too much that is wildly unstable in my family history (i.e., mental/chemical disorders run rampant) and disqualifies me as a candidate for any such experimentation. But I am willing to consider the ramifications (which merely serve to bolster Anthony's theory--which is nevertheless always all to the good).

Dreamer said...

I too would be reluctant to ingest DMT or any other hallucinogen. I'm convinced that the things I would encounter in such a state are more than the average human can cope with. To quote ITLAD (at the end of Chapter 8), "The problem is that the escaped prisoner [i.e., freed from the limitations of the physical senses], without protection, can be blinded by the light of the 'real world,' a world that he has been denied for good reason. We simply cannot cope with the intellectual and emotional stimuli brought about by full awareness."

(The Daemon is capable of processing and interpreting such information, but the Eidolon is not.)

The visions described in Carlos Castaneda's "The Teachings of Don Juan: a Yaqui Way of Knowledge" are incredibly intriguing to me. However, those experiences also sound extremely frightening -- it all sounds like very gruelling work indeed!

Anthony Peake said...

Hi Guys: I emailed Dr Strassman yesterday. He is away on business at the moment but will be back early this week. I have suggested that he take a look at your comments and the original posting.

ra from ca said...

I am as Anthony knows, grieving, whether it is pathological or not I do not know. I am very wary that any drug can give the meaning I need to the loss I have suffered. Perhaps in my case there is so much guilt that I am not expecting quick and easy fixes. I think I need to really learn something but perhaps I am of the old school that believes suffering teaches something valuable. I was inspired by Jill Bolte and her eight year long rebuilding of her life and how she seemed to be tranformed by her experience. Am I a party pooper to suggest that any drug even one that simulates death won't ultimately help you accept life and loss as it is thrown at you in this universe or in a parallel one?

susan marie said...

Your point is extremely well taken, Ra. I have intuitively felt as you have said above, not only in terms of grieving, but also with regard to any "mind-expansion" drugs as they were called in that other era. I do think Jesamyn's bringing up of the topic of DMT is interesting as far as the implications and ramifications concerning the brain at the point of death may go, and its confirming and reinforcing of Tony's theory. By the way, I did not know that you were grieving, and I am sorry to hear that you are. If you don't mind my asking, who are you grieving? Of course if you'd rather not answer, I will understand completely. Very best regards, SMK

ra from ca said...

My son killed himself on November 2, 2006, All Souls Day. As i mentioned in an earlier blog, I actually painted his death fourteen years prior just as he did it. A (daemon) voice reminded me of the painting after my son's death, thus my strong attraction To Anthony's work. There is of course tremendous guilt on my part as I know I could have saved him if it weren't for my lack of conscious presence. My pain is excrutiating.

susan marie said...

Ra: I am so, so sorry to hear of your devastating loss, and your pain. You have my very deepest sympathy. I now do remember that post clearly, but I did not remember who had written it. I believe that my own grief has been tainted and infected with guilt (Jesamyn and I have discussed with eachother via e-mail the terrible effects of guilt on the guilty grieving) but in your case, I have this to say: We cannot always tell which things from the unconscious are symbolic and metaphorical, and which are literal and plain admonitions. I, too, had visions, voices and dreams warning me that my husband was headed for disaster, but stupidly took them to be metaphors for my own feelings. I understand that the suicide of one's own child is tragic beyond all words; yet in many ways my husband was very much like a son to me, and his illness and death arose from a situation that was close to suicidal. When I awaken at 3 or 4 a.m. gasping in horror and muttering apologies to my dead husband, I feel I know all the horrors of the damned. Jesamyn has described similar nights of horror, I trust she will not mind my saying. I truly believe that Anthony's theory is the best comfort that exists for very reflective, critical and intellectual people. Thank you for sharing your story. Regards and hugs, SMK

ra from ca said...

Susan Marie:

Your eloquence has charmed and calmed yet again. I believe your daemon is quite evolved.

Karl believes he is living the virginal life, but is it possible that the daemon evolves to such a point that we become purely whole, or one? There is not two but one learned evolved spirit?

susan marie said...

I think it is very likely, and Anthony himself has concluded the same (although I cannot remember the exact post in which he did so). Bless you for your kind words--and keep an eye out for an email tomorrow. Best, SMK

Anthony Peake said...

Even if the book fails completely and I disappear back into the obscurity wence I came at least CTF and ITLAD have facilitated you guys not only make conact but also being of great emotional help to each other.

Although this has to be pure speculation but I am of the opinion that the reason for the Bohmian IMAX and the Eternal Returns is that they facilitate the eventual melding of the Daemon and eidolon into one hloistic, unified being. Indeed is this not what many occult and mystic traditions try to bring about? Of course one could take this one step further and have this new unitary being then become part of an even greater intelligence - The Field, Bohm's holographic Implicate Order or Eugene Halliday's Absolute.

With regard to the eventual unity of the Daemon and the Eidolon I am convinced that this will be the eventual

susan marie said...

Anthony; You will never disappear back into obscurity: your books, your articles and lectures, and the blog itself, have determined this. And I imagine that far more people than you know are grateful to you for emerging out of your "obscurity": I know I and many I know are grateful in the extreme.

johar said...

I'll second what Susan Marie said Tony, you're book and this blog are providing comfort and hope to many. The pain that some of us are experiencing and have been discussed here is cathartic in itself and personally knowing that we are sharing these experiences helps me. The pain never goes away but it is cushioned somewhat by sharing and having hope that comes from your book.

THANK YOU.

Karl L Le Marcs said...

Just quickly need to add to Susan Marie and Johar's comments above in response to Tony's blog. I've emailed AP privately regarding this but I feel my fellow bloggers on here would share my thoughts.
Tony's book is already a monumental success, not just commercially in the number of copies it has sold, and the number of countries it has been sold to, but also in the network of souls we have formed here; without Tony such disparate lives as mine, Susan Marie, Jesamyn, Johar, HurlyBurly, Ken, Athamandia and EVERYONE who comes here to just read what we all say is something of which Tony is, and should be, extemely proud.
And to Tony: We need to talk more about the Unified Field Theory in relation to my Copenhagen Interpretation of Consciousness idea that we gently touched upon on Saturday - I think we have the genesis of an interesting collaboration there.
But to all: THANK YOU all for being a massive part of this blog.
*touches oversized gingham handkerchief to tearful eye*

susan marie said...

Well, well spoken, Karl. Now dry your tears, and be your happy and darkish philosophical self. And of course you yourself are a great blessing to all of us and to Tony; never forget that.

Karl L Le Marcs said...

I am available for Weddings and Priviate Parties.
*smile*
Thank you, my special dear lady.

johar said...

Thanks Karl, well said - where can I get hold of one of those oversized and somewhat foppish gingham hankies you are so fond of? *throws away a rather tatty small hankie in disgust*

Karl L Le Marcs said...

*giggles*
I'm thinking of manufacturing my own line in Gentlemen's oversized foppish gingham hankies.
*smiles at Johar*