Sunday, 18 May 2008

some more on osho!


Existence
You are not accidental. Existence needs you. Without you something will be missing in existence and nobody can replace it. Thats what gives you dignity, that the whole existence will miss you. The stars and sun and moon, the trees and birds and earth - everything in the universe will feel a small place is vacant which cannot be filled by anybody except you. This gives you a tremendous joy, a fulfillment that you are related to existence, and existence cares for you. Once you are clean and clear, you can see tremendous love falling on you from all dimensions.
By: Osho

Abundance
In the East people have condemned the body, condemned matter, called matter "illusory," maya - it does not really exist, it only appears to exist; it is made of the same stuff as dreams are made of. They denied the world, and that is the reason for the East remaining poor, sick, in starvation. Half of humanity has been accepting the inner world but denying the outer world. The other half of humanity has been accepting the material world and denying the inner world. Both are half, and no man who is half can be contented. You have to be whole: rich in the body, rich in science; rich in meditation, rich in consciousness. Only a whole person is a holy person, according to me. I want Zorba and Buddha to meet together. Zorba alone is hollow. His dance has not an eternal significance, it is momentary pleasure. Soon he will be tired of it. Unless you have inexhaustible sources, available to you from the cosmos itself...unless you become existential, you cannot become whole. This is my contribution to humanity: the whole person.
By: Osho

7 comments:

Jesamyn said...

You seem to be a beautiful and aware person indeed.But at the risk of sounding argumentative, I cannot believe in your words or those of *oshi*. It sounds wonderful but there are a million people in starvation hunger and torture...why???My son was more of a Christian than I ever was, but is now a staunch Atheist... and all the Beatitudes of the Bible ring hollow... there must be more reason for existence than the *holy* one and I think Itlad and the beliefs here of us all forming our own future is more relevant than all the beautiful but meaningless Platitudes... sorry.. nothing against you whatsoever.. Blessed Be to You and we are all here to forge our own way forward....I hope you find what you are looking for... I sincerely do...
Jesamyn.

roshni said...

Jesamyn:
Im happy that you have read and find `osho`s` words of some relevance...but then thats the whole point, we have to find our own way...nobody is going to find your way for you....osho..makes for wonderful reading material, but u have to believe in what is right for you..your son has to believe in what is right for him...(in the end though all our `right beliefs` lead us to the understanding that all human beings are searching for perpetual happiness and fulfillment)....i was baptised as a christian too...but being in india im exposed to so many different cultures and beliefs. i find many concepts that are not very clear in christainity.....esp. to a lay person....so i try to find something that will give me my answers...ultimately, ive to pave my own path...ive to reckon with my own consciousness....i know that...

RAC said...

The comments here bring up an interesting point. What of the seemingly insignificant children born into a life of suffering; those who die of starvation or at the hands of inhumanity. Are they then forced to repeat their suffering in ITLAD fashion for all eternity? Or is there an ejection button somewhere one can push when the ride becomes tiresome?

Karl L Le Marcs said...

RAC: Re, your question: YES, in ITLADic context your life is replayed to you as it was in your previous life BUT, and in order to get away from Nietzsche's idea of such an 'Eternal' recurrence being hell, your past life review becomes the blueprint for your new life, from which you CAN deviate. So whilst those who you and Jesamyn describe indeed do begin their new lives within the Bohmian IMAX in the same place and condition there is always the hope that through Daemonic guidance one will be shown a path away from suffering and towards joy.
*A Bit Of My Dark Philosophy For You There!!*

And ALL-LIFE has an ejection button, surely! In Bohmian IMAX you just re-boot the computer!!

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