Friday, 30 May 2008

thoughts on the creation of the Eidolon

Consider this;
If two lines intersect, at the point of intersection they produce a point i.e. the intersection of two one-dimensional objects creates an object of 0 dimensions – a point.

If two surfaces intersect, at the point of intersection they produce a line i.e. the intersection of two two-dimensional objects creates an object of 1 dimension – a line.

Similarly,
If two cubes intersect, at the point of intersection they produce a surface i.e. the intersection of two three-dimensional objects creates an object of 2 dimensions – a surface.

So if we take this one logical step further,
If two four-dimensional objects intersect, at the point of intersection they produce a three-dimensional object i.e. a three-dimensional object is produced when two four-dimensional objects intersect!

What if beings of four-dimensions exist and travel thru this four-dimensional world.

As one of these 4D beings moves through its world what happens?
It continuously creates a three-dimensional being!

So there was a “Garden of Eden”, beyond the realm of human perception- whose glory and beauty is totally unknowable to us. A garden of the fourth-dimension.

Perhaps a 4D being was indeed passing through this paradise for the first time, and it happened upon, or somehow became “conscious” of the 3D being that it was continuously creating as it strolled thru. This “awareness” resulted in the birth of consciousness in the lower 3D realm. Perhaps it is possible for 4Ds to pass thru without creating a 3D being or object at its point of intersection with the 4D world. Perhaps there is some mechanism or intent “Eve ate the apple...” that allows the 4D being to become aware of its 3D counterpart.

This 4D being looked thru to this lower realm and was delighted and drawn-in by all the new perceptions that were rushing at his newly-created 3D senses from the 3D world.

“Eve ate the app...and they became aware of their nakedness....”

Over a long period of time, the 4D becomes completely absorbed in the consciousness of the lower dimension, until finally it forgets its true nature and becomes totally identified with its consciousness in the 3D realm. Forgetting its true reality, it sees the 3D illusory realm as absolutely real.
“Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden of Eden……


Was this the “fall from grace” that is referred to in the Bible?
What if Genesis’ description of the creation of the world was in fact the creation of the “human being”; the dawning of consciousness of the 4D being in the 3D realm; the creation of the Eidolon.

1 comment:

Karl L Le Marcs said...

Introduction:
String Theory is interesting because of the mathematics involved, and because of the large number of forms that the theories can take.

String Theory strongly suggests that spacetime has ELEVEN dimensions, not the usual three of space and one of time; but the theory can easily describe universes with four observable spacetime dimensions too.

Indeed in some areas of Quantum Mechanics it is suggested there may be up to TWENTY SEVEN dimensions, but that branch of physics comes from a part of String Theory that claims matter does not exist and that there does exist a mythical particle with very strange properties called a Tachyon (but I won't go into all that here)

Shiva: Interesting post BUT I was struggling as you seem to have made a mistake at the very beginning, and thus subsequently, throughout the thought-process.

You said:
"Consider this;
If two lines intersect, at the point of intersection they produce a point i.e. the intersection of two one-dimensional objects creates an object of 0 dimensions – a point."


Now, surely a "line" is not "one-dimensional", but TWO-dimensional, possessing both length and breadth.
(simply draw a line on a piece of paper and you will see it has length and breadth)

And a "surface" is not "two-dimensional" as you state, but THREE-dimensional, possessing length, depth and width.
(simply look at a table top)

Since its birth as the dual resonance model which described the strongly interacting hadrons as strings, the term String Theory has changed to include any of a group of related Superstring Theories and larger frameworks such as M-theory, which unite them. A shared property of all these theories is the holographic principle, in which the Bohmian IMAX operates.

To look at interraction of fields we need to consider M-Theory or Membrane Theory.

You then ask:
" What if beings of four-dimensions exist and travel thru this four-dimensional world."

Any "four-dimensional" being would require, at least, a fifth-dimension in which to travel! So the question falls.

This is where your "interraction" question has problems to me. Yes, when a three-dimensional object interracts with another three-dimensional object it may create an initially two-dimensional object or plain until that new object or plain also moves, when IT also becomes three-dimensional.
(substitute THREE for any number and this applies equally)

So, taking us back to your original "line" position. If two lines (two-dimensional, not one as you state) meet then they create a point (one-dimensional, not zero dimensional as you state), until that point moves, when it, itself, becomes as two-dimensional as the original lines where.

My simply question re your "Garden of Eden" analogy would be this:

How could anything have "dimension" without prior consciousness?

And interestingly you use the "apple" allegory when in scripture there is actually NO mention of an apple at all. The original Hebrew says only "fruit", but anyway, interesting post Shiva, thank you for sharing, but it is too flawed, in my opinion, to close examination and also creationist which doesn't provide any cause and effect answers as even adopting Plato's Prime Mover concept we could then still apply the questions of prior causality to the Creator!