Sunday 6 July 2008

The Week’s Most ITLADic Scientific News Volume 4 (Top 5) EXTRA

Everyday is like Sunday! Everday is ITLADic and so I say, here we go again with the ITLADic Sunday Service!

If anyone doesn’t know, this is my regular round-up of the week’s most ITLADic Scientific News for everyone to enjoy reading through and comment upon, with your thoughts, interpretations and questions.

Once again it was very difficult to narrow the plethora of papers and reports this week down to a Top 5 and I add some EXTRA links in certain areas of ITLAD for you to pick and choose your own areas of particular interest.

Before we begin, if anyone has not read my post from last night on the AMAZINGLY ITLADic episode of Doctor Who in the UK then please read it and watch the video I have included, and comment accordingly.

> Turn Left [by Karl L Le Marcs] <

Please find below links to a summary of this week’s Top 5 items.

1. Mind's Eye Influences Visual Perception

2.
Neuroscientists Take Important Step Towards Mind Reading

3.
Cot Death Risk "Higher For Babies With Imbalance Of Mood Chemical"

4.
Scientists Set Out To Measure How We Perceive Naturalness

5.
Spiritual Effects Of Hallucinogens Persist, Researchers Report

The Unexplained:
100 years ago this week “something” fell to Earth in Siberia causing mass devastation. What was it?

Here are the best three articles from this week’s reporting of this unexplained anniversary.


> The Tunguska Mystery - 100 Years Later <
> Aliens Or Asteroid? What Was The Blast Of 1,000 Hiroshimas? <
> What Hit Siberia 100 Years Ago? Tunguska Event Still Puzzles Scientists <

And for the EXTRA section I include the following from many aspects of research. As with last week, some of these are fairly specialised but given the diversity of people here I’m sure there will be something of interest for everyone.

Publishing: New Book
> The Mirror Neuron: Exploring What Makes Humans Social <

Experimental Philosophy:
> Experimental Philosophy Explores Real-Life Dilemmas <

Mental Health:
> Migraine Mutations Clues To Biological Basis Of Disorder <

Large Hadron Collider:
> If The Large Hadron Collider Produced A Microscopic Black Hole, It Probably Wouldn't Matter! <

Quantum Physics:
> Physicists Create Millmeter-Sized "Bohr Atom" <

Evolutionary Psychology:
> Women Have A Better Memory For Faces And Words <
> Charades Reveals A Universal Sentence Structure <

Neurology:
> New Map IDs The Core Of The Human Brain <

Cosmology/Astrophysics:
> Einstein Was Right, Astrophysicists Say <

Most ITLADic item of the week on other BLOGS:
> Occupational Arrows Of Time <

And finally, this T-Shirt just made me giggle!!!

I will be available most of Sunday to answer any questions you have on these articles and to discuss the implications within ITLADic Philosophy.

I will place my own interpretation of the articles throughout the day in the comments section.

I hope we can generate as interesting a discussion as we have on previous Sundays and if you haven’t been involved before then you are more than welcome to add your thoughts.

If you missed the previous Top 5s then click here (for week 1) here (for week 2) and here (for last week)

Happy Sunday Service, and please place your opinions, questions and observations in the comments section for all to discuss.

A Dark Philosopher
Karl L Le Marcs

[Addendum: From comments and emails received by some bloggers, apparently once a post has received 200 comments, it then splits into an alternate parallel comment box!! So when you look at the comments, only the first 200 will appear. You will notice at the top and bottom of the 1st and 200th comments there is a new area that says "1-200 of xxx Newer > Newest >>", if you click on Newest, you will be taken to a new box that contains all the comments from #201 onwards. Thank You for such a phenomenal response and wonderful discussion.]

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Karl Le Marcs said...

Andrew: Take your time my friend. It is just gone Midnight UK Time and I have been awake for 42 hours and thankfully am beginning to feel a bit tired !!
YAY!!

So, there is no rush, take your time and enjoy the discussion that we've all had today.

I am busy until late Monday afternoon but I will be able to read whatever you have added then.

And well done on bringing Persinger to your Mother. Your Mom is proud of you, and so she should be.

Thanks Andrew, I look forward to reading your thoughts tomorrow.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Ra from Ca: Oh thank you Ruth. And it is wonderful to have you involved.

Yes, the Migraine and Epilepsy articles are important to ITLAD given what Tony terms the "Scale of Transcendence", so thank you for making that connection.

I'm glad you have enjoyed reading the articles Ruth.

Karl Le Marcs said...

EVERYONE: Well!! It seems we have learned something else today!

When a post goes over 200 comments it splits into another parallel list!!

HOW APT!!
*smile*

Andrew Giancarlo said...

All right I know the Professor is sleeping but I wanted to begin at least tonight,I chose the one on migraines because I have them and had seizures as a kid. I think the overfiring of neurons was also behind it or so the doctors told me something like it. I took meds but not anymore since age 14.I was impressed when I read Anthony Peake's work because he dealt with TLE and schizophrenia and all these conditions and all went back to his Daemon theory of binary mind. The article says its a gating malfunction in sodium channels which can cause migraine and tle both. From a medical view this need s fixing and it probably does. But if Tony is thinking that the conditions open the door to increase in communications from the daemon then there is a gap with a big question mark there. I know in my familuy on our English side everyone has mysterious brain wiring and loads of problems. Yet this is the side that has all the authors and philosophers. I guess it is a mixed blessing or a sword that cuts both ways. There is a trade off aspect to how much normal functioning should be valued above abnomrmal kinds but that allow expansion. My father used to say that all the prophets im the bible were madmen but that is why the writing is so beautiful and sees so far in to things. I agree totally with the idea that the a price is paid for the extra perceptions. I know all my so called subclinical disorders are part of what I come from and that carries the drive for reading and speaking on subjects that most people would want to pass them by. I think though this article was only trying to help bring relief to sufferers but we come to a place where we start to tread on whole new ground with Tony. He offers humanity Bohm's order and makes it into a big Imax theater(many of them actualy!) and run by personal Daemons. It is all proven by science but he turns it into theater because of his views and speaks about it like an artist. That is great vision. so I have to think carefully about what he would say about the article and his Professor who is moving it all up to the next level.

Andrew Giancarlo said...

I think I should apologize to Professor Lemarcs for not having organized my thoughts very well beforehand as I wrote my remarks above.I will take extra time with the essay I will write you on the new experimental philosophy movement. Maybe I can email it to you and you can edit or tell if its in the right direction,Thankyou.

Andrew Giancarlo said...

I have taken notes to remark clearly on experimental philosophy.I have to agree with my mother and the author that philosophy began in the marketplace,and Socrates was always approaching people. He did not conduct actual experiments but he wrestled,he and his disciple Plato I think said philosophy was an erotic wrestling contest but of course this was meant as wordplay. It looks like these new philosophers are trying to move in on cognitive psychology testing and combine it with the ancient idea of philosophy as marketplace communicating.Thats a philosophy takeover and invasion and my mother pushes this to me all the time. I know my mother says this is all Professor Lou Marinoff has been doing for 10 years now and I remember my parents always goin g into New york for all his meetings he ran in the city. And they are taking philosophers seriously to conduct all these studies and giving grants and things and of coures I agree that is perfect for you and Tony to get into because you are philosophers above the other things you are experts in.

Rosh said...

Karl,Good Morning! Sorry for disturbing the dicussion yesterday with my ramblings..(but i love to tease u...u take things so seriously and im just the opposite!)u r without doubt the most hardworking on this blog and I salute u!
Now, ive had time to read most of the articles, really well ..and im really impressed with article 2#
u know, in Mumbai, where i live ,now its the moonsoon season..and this is the time that all kinds of earthworms and snakes can be seen..and i dread stamping on a earthworm and am absolutely frightened of snakes..i was thinking of doing this course on 'Herpetology' to arrest my fears ...now this article 2# has a link Unlocking The Psychology Of Snake And Spider Phobias...beautiful...thank u!

Rosh said...

karl, im refering to the Experimental Philosophy Movement Explores Real-life Dilemmas article 2# on the extra section.

SM Kovalinsky said...

Hi, Roshni; I am sure Karl will comment when he comes home this evening. I can't believe you are in moonsoon season; one of our science Professors at FDU in his weather and climate course read a beautiful poem on moonsoon and I have never forgotten it. Article #2 is full of portents of the future of research and thinking. Yes, you are correct; KLLM is incredibly hard-working and a natural professor to his fingertips. I wish I could be the same and not so scattered.

johar said...

Hi Guys,

AMAZING discussions, another FANTASTIC week!

Haven't had chance to read all the articles and posts yet but I quickly wanted to comment on Robin's post regarding ketamine and it's ITLADic affect.

I use a drug called adenosine quite a lot in my practice. It is used when a person's heart is beating erratically and needs to be 'bumped' back into a normal rhythm. What has occured to me is that this drug actually induces, momentarily, an NDE. It literally stops the heart so it can start again beating correctly.
Now the interesting thing is, not everyone has the same experience of the drug. Some report feeling that they are falling, that someone or thing is at the top of their bed, by their heads and some don't really notice any affect. In many cases, I have held onto a persons hand because they have reported feeling that they were really falling off the bed and I anchored them as something 'real' to grip onto. Isn't this an interesting example of drugs causing NDE. The only thing that hasn't been reported to me is any past life flash back and I believe that is because the effect is so fleeting and the daemon knows and that it is not an NDE or RDE and if it is a memory playback it already knows the outcome is one that benfits the eidolon.

I don't know why this hsn't seeped into my consciousness before!

Back later with article comments.

SM Kovalinsky said...

Johar; Yes, that is interesting in terms of drug-induced NDEs, and I wager that your explanation as to why this particular type produces no lasting effects is a correct one. Look forward to more comments from you when you have the time.

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johar said...

Have just realised that the blog splits to a new page - I was panicking thinking my comments weren't being posted and all it was you were all in a another dimension hehe!!

SM Kovalinsky said...

Yeah, he is up above 200 now, unbelievable, and as Nietzsche says aptly, "so then one becomes two"----a parallel to the division he is undergoing now, I do think! I had wondered why the same comment I had responded to appeared again; thought I was in a time split of my own!

Rosh said...

karl, where r u ? u r late by 16 hours.....!!!goodness me!

SM Kovalinsky said...

He is away doing other business. Imagine if he vanished altogether? Well, he will come back, he dare not pass us by. . .

Rosh said...

SM, yes! he dare not!!!
what about the weekly sunday services? who will teach us to concentrate and not to giggle while he himself giggles?

SM Kovalinsky said...

Oh, you are so right, Rosh. He reminds me of the peevish schoolmaster in Charlotte Bronte's, "The Professor", and I feel we are in that book when he is with us on Sundays. My son notices it too, charisma is important in a scholar and teacher----so he'd better not get mad at these comments!

johar said...

Article #1

There is a technique within Hypnotherapy that sets up the intent to achieve a future goal. By using imagery in a trance state the intention is more strongly formed and therefore more likely to be achieved. I suggest that when we are deeply relaxed it is our daemon that helps set the intent to achieve the goal.

Our imagery is internal, an element of our subjective consciousness and therefore connected directly to our daemon.

Past experiences affects our current perception. Within the Bohmian IMAX, our past life experiences are also future experiences and so it is fully conceivable that we can imagine what is yet to come, hence precognition, deja vu/vecu etc., intuition and the like. This is when daemonic guidance plays it's part, presenting imagery to show us the right path, should we choose to listen with eidolonic free will.

Temporal delay means that what we perceive is only what is presented to us through our daemonic filter. Our imaginations, guided daemonically, allow the expansion of that filter. I think our imaginations are not simply the recordings of past experiences but the potential for growth and evolution and the creative use of our imagination is what keeps us in touch with our daemon and guided to reach our full potential.

johar said...

Article #2 This article reminds me of Technology Unlocks the Silent Mind but, of course, all of Karl's work is linked somehow!

This experiment suggests being able to read someones mind based on MRI scans that activate certain areas of the brain when shown different pictures.

What is interesting is that it can only focus on still images that are dissimilar to each other otherwise the programme gets confused. It seems along way of from reading the complex, dynamic thought and image activity of another's mind.

However, as we are all entangled on the objective consciousness field, it is possible, if not to read another's mind, to be aware on a subconscious level of their general thought processes. I refer to The Sensation of Being Stared At, by Karl and also the many comments and reports on knowing when someone is in danger or hurt or needs us for whatever reason.

It's not mind reading exactly but the principle is the same, that we are intricately connected and therefore objectively part of each others minds.

The experiment I would like to see is this:

Electrodes placed on a person's brain in the area that is activated by visual stimuli.
These electrodes then attached to another's brain on the temporal region. Then, as in the Penfield experiments the second person's temporal area is stimulated to produce fully immersed memory playback.

I wonder what the first person would experience?

SM Kovalinsky said...

Johar: You really are very thorough, and you have a sharp mind for all these scientific things (alas, far sharper than my own). I wanted to help KLLM by taking care of some of the comments for him, but I'm afraid I really am not qualified in this area, except to say that I learn a bit also from your sharp observations, and I thank you for that. I know you have other things to tend to as well, but if you do have a chance at some point to make some observations on the experimental philosophy article (which he has placed in the alternate section) I would love to see them, and to rejoin.

Karl Le Marcs said...

EVERYONE: Apologies for being a few hours later than expected, I have had demands on my time from other circles within my Gestalt Existentialism.

I will start to read through the comments made since I was last here, earlier this morning, shortly, but I do need to have a rest at some stage, plus I need to make something to eat!

Thank You to Susan Marie for overseeing matters while I was away, I will add more when I have caught up, later.

johar said...

I just want to say before I carry on with my thoughts on the articles that I apologise if I have repeated anyone else's comments.

As you can imagine, reading over 200 comments upon my return was quite overwhelming so I will not have remembered all of them with absolute clarity.

I do keep going back for reference purposes but again it's a long process.

johar said...

Article #3

I see that researchers are suggesting that there may be a genetic cause for the serotonin depletion in these infants and they have also attributed environmental causes to the imbalance. However nothing, as yet, has been confirmed.

So, if genetics are ruled out and the child's environment is exemplary, what then could be casing the serotonin depletion these babies?

Could there be some daemonic influence that dictates the survival of these children? As we look for hard science answers, could there be a more directed reason, not pre-destiny per-se but a knowledge that this is not the time for this particular being and their future potential is more important than at this moment?

I cannot conceive of a child being born to die this way over and over again. I feel that there must be some purpose to it.

johar said...

Article #4

Sounds like IKEA World, Lord have mercy!

The guys at NPL are saying that eventually we won't be able to distinguish the real from the synthetic. This parallels our experience at this very moment. What is real, what is synthetic (recorded?

If we are living the Virgin Life, we are experiencing true reality and if we are within the Bohmian IMAX, our reality is the internal perception of the past life memory playback.

This raises a question for me, though. If, in the Virgin Life, we are experiencing true reality, what is filtering our perceptions, as we have only eidolonic existence, whereas we have daemonic filtering within the Bohmian IMAX? What is the 'buffer' in the VL that prevents our perception of true reality overwhelming us?

Karl Le Marcs said...

Andrew: FABULOUS work young fellow!

Your comments on the Migraine article are very insightful, and I agree with the whole overfiring of neurons concept as a friend of mine suffers from very strong Migraines, and before it starts she always says she can smell burning and static (which could well be the Neuronal overfiring)

And your comments on the Experimental Philosophy article show you truly to be your Mother's boy. Excellently well said.

And I thank you, as always, for your kind words about my work.
Thank You.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Roshni: Apology for your behaviour yesterday accepted.

HOWEVER! I am NOT "late by 16 hours", I am probably running about 4 hours behind time today owing to some other jobs I have been asked to help with.

Thank you for your input and if I could ask you to try and keep comments vaguely relevant to the discussion, you would be doing me a respectful service.

*giggle*

johar said...

Article #5

I noticed that the volunteers in this experiment already had healthy spiritual lives.

The application of the hallucinogen,in my opinion, served to expand their perception to their daemon, which presented itself in the most appropriate way for these people, that is, in a spiritual/mystical way.

I feel that once perception was expanded, daemonic influence and guidance continued long after the drug had left their system, hence the reason their well being and satisfaction continued for more than a year afterwards.

However, the researchers themselves, reported that some of the volunteers experienced anxiety and fear during their psilocybin sessions and also noted that, in other settings, these responses could lead to harmful behaviours.

This highlights the need for caution with the use of these hallucinogens. They open the doors to perception and there needs to be care in how far the doors are flung open.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Susan Marie: Ah!! SMK!! Thanks for doing a good job looking after the discussion.

And your kind words about me are humbling and flattering and I shall have to coax my ego out from the cupboard under the stairs with a nice Lagavulin shortly.

I'll comment on the discussions between Johar and yourself in a short while.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: Hi JoJo, glad you had a nice weekend, and it's lovely to see you as keen to be involved with the Sunday(seeping into Monday) Service!
*smile*

re Robin and Ketamine etc, all these tales of neurotransmitter and chemical perception changers are relevant to ITLAD yes. I wonder if Robin is aware of Adenosine, I must ask her!

ps, Glad you managed to work out the alternate comments page.

The Many Comments Interpretation!

Ha!

*groans*

Karl Le Marcs said...

Susan Marie: *looks over the top of spectacles*

"peevish schoolmaster"

See me after class!

*wink*

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: Before I start reading your comments on the articles I'm just going to grab something to eat JoJo. So I will return shortly and give your comments the attention they deserve.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re Article #1, interesting comment re intent and goals. Sportsmen talk of being in the zone, and I know when I play certain sports such as Pool or Darts that by visualising the shot or throw before doing it, I can improve my game. This then becomes second-nature through practice, whereby the visualisation happens unconsciously.

I enjoyed your interpretation around the circularity of time affecting the perception of events. As I have said before; The Eidolon has one eye on the present and one on the past, whereas the Daemon has one eye on the present and one eye on the future.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re Article #2, yes it is linked to a couple of previous articles over the last few Sunday Services, I linked back to some of them in one of my earlier comments.

"but, of course, all of Karl's work is linked somehow!"

Ah!! So true, thanks for spotting that!!

I know you've read some of the work of Dean Radin, and this experiment reminds me of a few of Radin's in this area.

"However, as we are all entangled on the objective consciousness field, it is possible, if not to read another's mind, to be aware on a subconscious level of their general thought processes. I refer to The Sensation of Being Stared At, by Karl"

BRILLIANT JoJo!!

"The experiment I would like to see is this:
Electrodes placed on a person's brain in the area that is activated by visual stimuli.
These electrodes then attached to another's brain on the temporal region. Then, as in the Penfield experiments the second person's temporal area is stimulated to produce fully immersed memory playback.
I wonder what the first person would experience?
"

Erm, probably a massive Temporal Seizure so I might suggest NOT actually trying this!

*giggles*

Susan Marie: "I wanted to help KLLM by taking care of some of the comments for him, but I'm afraid I really am not qualified in this area"

Oh! You've done well, so thank you.

Anonymous said...

I was beginning to think I'd entered some sort of time warp myself. I was SURE the post count on here was going up, I was convinced Andrew would have something enlightening to say, but whenever I checked the last post was the same.

Now I've worked it out! Chapter 2 kicks in after 200 posts! My sense of reality is restored.

And the posts by Andrew, Johar et al were well worth finding.

*doh!*

johar said...

Susam Marie!!!

Karl MUST have had you in mind when he posted this article, most revered and knowledgeable Philosofemale! (mmm... not too sure about the sound of that, does it sound like a dinosaur? hehe)

This article reminded me immediately of your post last week: Towards a Coherent Peakean Philosophy.

Tony's and Karl's theories have a firm and essential part in these studies as they can be applied to all the areas of Philosophy you mention in your post, namely: metaphysics, epistemology, deontology, ethics and axiology.

I strongly believe you are being daemonically guided to be part of these studies and bring the Peakean/Marcsian Theories into the light of public awareness.

You are on the path and this article highlights this fact.

I love the idea of Philosophical thinking being updated for the people and by the people - I think you said before that that is where it all started - with Socrates in the market place, talking to people.

You are the woman to bring together Philosophy, contemporary views and Peakean/Marcsian Ideology, I can visualize the seperate strands converging on you.

If I can be of any help and assistance with your research and studies I am at your beck and call. The values and beliefs, how they are are formed and how they inform and impact on individuals lives and the lives of society has always fascinated me. I would dearly love to see a framework that incorporates contemporary philosophical views and the Peake/Marcs Ideology!

This has the potential to be massive in raising awareness, it needs to be 'put out there'

(for some reason I cannot get the song 'This is the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius' out of my head as I write this!)

I believe you would like to see contemporary philosophical values and Peake/Marcs concepts bought into the public consciousness for the purpose of a more harmonious world where we realise out purpose and live dynamically due to our openness to daemon and philosophical values. I, too, would like to see that happen. Is it a Utopian Fantasy do you think?

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re article #3, I completely agree yes, and well said. I hope you saw some of my earlier comments regarding article #3 and the Daemonic influence.

Karl Le Marcs said...

EVERYONE: After receiving some comments and emails regarding the EXPANSION of this comment box into two separate boxes, I will add a section to the bottom of the original post to explain for others. Thank You

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re Article #4, IKEA WORLD where they play Mr Mister's "Kyrie" (see what I did there?)
*smile*

When I first read this article one Insomniacal night last week I thought NPL was NLP and I confused myself!! LOL!!

To attempt to answer your question: "If, in the Virgin Life, we are experiencing true reality, what is filtering our perceptions, as we have only eidolonic existence, whereas we have daemonic filtering within the Bohmian IMAX? What is the 'buffer' in the VL that prevents our perception of true reality overwhelming us?"
The Temporal Time Delay between objective empiricalism and what is actually presented to Subjective Consciousness is not necessarily Daemonic, and would thus still be applicable to the Virgin Life. The difference within the Bohmian IMAX is that The Daemon is aware of what is about to happen externally from this Temporal Time Delay. The Biological traits of the Left-Right Brain Consciousness would mean the Temporal Time Delay would still exist in the Virgin Life but the BUFFER would only be a few seconds, whereas the Daemonic Buffer (if you like) would be much longer in the recurrences.

I hope this helps.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re Article #5, please find links below to two precious articles (from before we began the Sunday Service) which are related to this article:

Mechanism Of Hallucinogens' Effects Discovered

Scientists Show Hallucinogen In Mushrooms Creates Universal 'Mystical' Experience

You may find these interesting!

Karl Le Marcs said...

Woodsprite: *giggles*

I've rectified the confusion by placing an ADDENDUM to the original post, let me know if it makes sense!!

Thank You!

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re Experimental Philosophy, oh yes indeed, SMK was my main inspiration for including this article, and I am SURE she will find your comments FABO and will respond in her own inimitable and wonderful fashion soon.

Unfortunately neither Tony nor myself are Aquarius (he being Aries (The Ram most symbolic), and I being a Sagittarius).
*HA!*

I certainly don't think what you say is a "Utopian Fantasy" no, and I truly believe that together we can produce something of monumental importance.

The journey has already begun!!!

Thank You JoJo for all your efforts today, you are an important and integral part of the Sunday Service and the EITLAD in general.

Karl Le Marcs said...

EVERYONE: Right, I'm up to date with all comments now!
YAY!!!

WHISKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*smile*

SM Kovalinsky said...

JoJo: Forgive me for having not responded to your beautiful remarks to me sooner: I was walking my pooch around the lake! My goodness, to be on the receiving end of such beautiful praise, I think I almost know what KLLM's natural state is now! Thank you, and I appreciate that in my mania and fanaticism there are people on this blog who understand that one might in fact be called to a task. I always mention my New England ancestry, who were orators and writers of the civil war era Transcendentalist movement. This is not to boast, but on the contrary to explain. A "call to arms" in the philosophical sense is my heritage. And no, I do not think it is Utopian in the perjorative sense of the word, but a true shift that does have much to do with these 2 particular men ( and I am fully aware of how grandiose this would sound to the "uninitiated"---but let it stand!) - this has been the normal course of history, Hegel knew it well! God bless you (I mean that in the Aristotlean sense) for singing my praises, you are lovely and intelligent and kind. I am busy at work on another essay, aimed at the New York philosophical practicioner's movement as we speak!

Andrew Giancarlo said...

I want to thankyou Professor Lemarcs for your praise to me.I was real worried that I had done a rush job and you wouldnt approve so I sure am relieved . I think you do a momumental job with your service and I get more from you than at college classes in lots of ways,so thank you. I wanted to tell you that me and my family couldnt believe there was a news story today on MSNBC and it talked about my mom with regards to the Barack Obama campaign,but it was all bad talk about her and she got so upset!

Karl Le Marcs said...

Susan Marie: It may interest you to know that I was writing an article today (in one of my other circles) around the work of Ludwig Feuerbach (include Marxian Dialectical Materialism and Hegelian Dialectics) and his involvement with the Young Hegelians.

johar said...

Susan Marie, You are very welcome, you have expanded my knowledge on this blog and your enthusiasm is infectious and I thank you.

Karl, Thank you for the clarification regarding my question in Article #4 and thank you for your kind comments on my contribution to this wonderful blog.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Andrew: Thank You my fellow.

And oh no!! That is upsetting about your dear MOM, go give her a hug from me, her work for Obama is tremendous.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: *dofs diamante encrusted mortarboard (with newly added purple tassles) and bows*

johar said...

Regarding the Mirror neurons then...

"In other words, they collapse the distinction between seeing and doing."

"The good news is, the excitement about mirror neurons reveals that people have an intuitive understanding of how neural mechanism for mirroring work. When told about this research, they can finally articulate what they already “knew” at some sort of pre-reflective level."

Totally CtCW!

Also, Karl, there is a connection in my head between this research and Stuart Hameroff's Orch OR Model of Consciousness. Now, I only know the basics so I may be making wild connections so maybe you can tell me if there is a parallel?

johar said...

Susan Marie,

*HUGS* - Not much comfort but know that I and I'm sure others here are thinking of you and appreciate your value. XX

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re Mirror Neurons, I agree yes, this is yet more scientific research that I can add to CtCw and Tony and I's BIGTOE!

There is a marginal linkage with Orch OR yes, which reminds me to thank Tony for directing me to some recent development in the debate around Hameroff's theory.
(I'll look into in tomorrow Tony)

SM Kovalinsky said...

Oh, thank you Jojo, and to KLLM as well. It was my own fault, I started up something that I should not have, and of course I have retracted and apologized, so we will see. Thank you for being so kind to me.

johar said...

Migraine Mutations Clues To Biological Basis Of Disorder

This interest me in a professional capacity as I've looked after many patients (mainly women) who experience migraines with hemiplegia. I will keep an eye on the research as it may help my practice to develop a tool for identifying FHM3 in people rather than having to CT everyone in case it's a stroke.

From and ITLADic perspective, I believe that this prolonged channel opening certainly opens up perception as well, enhancing the senses and giving people that 'spacey' sensation.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: re Migraines, yes thank you. You may be interested in what Woodsprite has to say on this subject also.

johar said...

Women Have A Better Memory For Faces And Words

BLIMEY! I found this article quite a damning indictment of women's motives, subconscious or otherwise!

And I don't think it flattered men much either.

It makes general, blanket statements but, to me, it depends on the level of awareness of the individual regardless of sex.

Men and women form a synergy that creates balance. This is idealistic, I know, but I believe it is what we strive for in our partnerships and if we have openness and awareness of our connectedness, then it stops being about the 'I' (or ego)

"I am more than me"

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: "Men and women form a synergy that creates balance. This is idealistic, I know, but I believe it is what we strive for in our partnerships and if we have openness and awareness of our connectedness, then it stops being about the 'I' (or ego)"

Or the Id (in my case)
*smile*

And yes, SMK would agree, probably!

SM Kovalinsky said...

Oh, yes indeed, I do agree! Very roundly, and Johar I do appreciate your liberal and generous mind; it is very much needed as all who fan the flames of gender wars are divisive and the enemies of unity. Very nicely said, I salute you for that as a philosopher who is very anti gender-feminism! (But of course equity feminism, based on the Enlightenment principles of classical liberalism, I endorse heartily!)

johar said...

Karl, Thanks for directing me to Di's comments on migraines, I've just reread them.

Di: Thank you for sharing such a personal experience, never be afraid to share them, your gift is your openness and willingness to learn from them, very ITLADian. I sense advanced evolution in you.

And your other comment:

"I have spent a lot of my life "asleep" - trying to fit in, pleasing other people, limiting what I talk about. I'm so pleased that I've been guided to Tony's work and through him to this blog, and Karl of course. Here I'm encouraged to think rigorously and creatively and it's like coming home."

An fantastic comment that I share whole heartedly.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Susan Marie: I thought you'd agree with that!
*smile*

Yes, as a male who abhors all forms of both Misogyny and Misandrism I concur totally.

One must strike the Anima/Animus - Persona balance to remain humanistic without being partizan.

Karl Le Marcs said...

Johar: Ha! I have yet another new title!!
Director of ITLADic Studies!!

Glad I could help, and yes Di's words were stunning weren't they?

Anonymous said...

Johar: Thank you so much for your kind comments. I've just woken up after a poor night's sleep. Your words give me encouragement!

Rosh said...

Karl, good afternoon! ( its 2.27pm here)
Im happy that u hve accepted my apologies..
But I'm ME!....in your class of gifted learners there are some, naughty slowlearners ..hope u have the heart to tolerate them....
*no giggles*

SM Kovalinsky said...

Roshni: You are so much like me:
". . . Though he slay me, I will put my trust in him. Even so, I will maintain mine own ways before him." (Psalms of David, Old Testament).

Karl Le Marcs said...

Woodsprite: Johar, Susan Marie and I all empathise with you from differing angles so you have a great support network!
*smile*

Karl Le Marcs said...

Roshni and Susan Marie: Behave!
*smile*

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